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		<title>By: Kirk Petersen</title>
		<link>http://blog.kirkpetersen.net/2009/01/a-sickness-in-the-soul-of-middle-eastern-islam.html/comment-page-1#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schumey, I didn&#039;t realize you are in the Philippines -- welcome.  Lots of Entrecard users in the Philippines -- my fourth-biggest source of traffic, after U.S., Canada and UK.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Check out the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palestinian Child Abuse&lt;/a&gt; slideshow.  How is that not indoctrination?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Do you have something specific in mind when you say &quot;you have to understand the Islamic culture and religion first&quot;? Because I&#039;m actively working to increase my understanding.  My current text is &lt;i&gt;No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam&lt;/i&gt; by Reza Aslan. My favorite text is &lt;i&gt;Infidel&lt;/i&gt; by &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://blog.kirkpetersen.net/2008/12/revisiting-whats-the-matter-with-islam.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my hero&lt;/a&gt;, Ayaan Hirsi Ali. I&#039;ve also read &lt;i&gt;Militant Islam Reaches America&lt;/i&gt; by Daniel Pipes, &lt;i&gt;American Jihad&lt;/i&gt; by Steven Emerson, &lt;i&gt;The Foreigner&#039;s Gift&lt;/i&gt; by Fouad Ajami, and Bernard Lewis&#039;s &lt;i&gt;What Went Wrong&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;The Crisis of Islam&lt;/i&gt;.  (Hm... maybe I should add an Amazon store to my blog.)  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In all of that reading, I&#039;ve not seen anything that excuses Islamist attacks on civilians in the Philippines, Israel, America, London, Madrid, Bali, Mumbai and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schumey, I didn&#8217;t realize you are in the Philippines &#8212; welcome.  Lots of Entrecard users in the Philippines &#8212; my fourth-biggest source of traffic, after U.S., Canada and UK.</p>
<p>Check out the <a HREF="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse/" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Palestinian Child Abuse</a> slideshow.  How is that not indoctrination?</p>
<p>Do you have something specific in mind when you say &#8220;you have to understand the Islamic culture and religion first&#8221;? Because I&#8217;m actively working to increase my understanding.  My current text is <i>No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam</i> by Reza Aslan. My favorite text is <i>Infidel</i> by <a HREF="http://blog.kirkpetersen.net/2008/12/revisiting-whats-the-matter-with-islam.html" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">my hero</a>, Ayaan Hirsi Ali. I&#8217;ve also read <i>Militant Islam Reaches America</i> by Daniel Pipes, <i>American Jihad</i> by Steven Emerson, <i>The Foreigner&#8217;s Gift</i> by Fouad Ajami, and Bernard Lewis&#8217;s <i>What Went Wrong</i> and <i>The Crisis of Islam</i>.  (Hm&#8230; maybe I should add an Amazon store to my blog.)  </p>
<p>In all of that reading, I&#8217;ve not seen anything that excuses Islamist attacks on civilians in the Philippines, Israel, America, London, Madrid, Bali, Mumbai and elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Schumey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schumey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Philippines has a communist insurgency brought about by social injustice. The landlords use paramilitary forces to terrorize the farmers. Abductions and summary killings have driven the children of those abused to a life of rebellion, not because of ideology but because of vengeance. This is the communist insurgency I refer to. This is the same cause of the continuing Muslim rebellion in my country. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I beg to differ from your indoctrination theory. You have to understand the Islamic culture and religion first. Indoctrination is the easy way for propagandists to get the sympathy of those who do not understand Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Philippines has a communist insurgency brought about by social injustice. The landlords use paramilitary forces to terrorize the farmers. Abductions and summary killings have driven the children of those abused to a life of rebellion, not because of ideology but because of vengeance. This is the communist insurgency I refer to. This is the same cause of the continuing Muslim rebellion in my country. </p>
<p>I beg to differ from your indoctrination theory. You have to understand the Islamic culture and religion first. Indoctrination is the easy way for propagandists to get the sympathy of those who do not understand Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, I think we&#039;ve previously established that you&#039;re more hardcore than I am :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Schumey, I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re referring to by a &quot;communist insurgency,&quot; but what drives the kids to follow in their fathers&#039; footsteps is a indoctrination from an early age into a perverted brand of Islam that glorifies death -- see pictures above, and many more at Little Green Footballs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;David, I think fighting radical Islam is the ONLY option.  NOT fighting radical Islam &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://blog.kirkpetersen.net/2008/09/never-forget.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;led directly to 9/11&lt;/a&gt;, and isolationism will lead to more 9/11s. There will be defeats and setbacks along the way, but that&#039;s the nature of any conflict.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Cold War seemed unwinnable, too... then all of a sudden we won.  The Iraq War isn&#039;t over, but it&#039;s looking more and more like a success story.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here&#039;s the part of Peters&#039; column where I dissent:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;While it&#039;s impossible to fully eliminate extremism, killing every terrorist leader hiding in a Gaza bunker is the only hope of achieving even a temporary, imperfect peace. The chance may not come again.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t think it&#039;s realistic to kill &quot;every&quot; terrorist leader in Gaza -- not without truly horrific civilian casualties.  But it&#039;s realistic to kill a lot of them, and to destroy a lot of their munitions and infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I think we&#8217;ve previously established that you&#8217;re more hardcore than I am <img src='http://blog.kirkpetersen.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Schumey, I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re referring to by a &#8220;communist insurgency,&#8221; but what drives the kids to follow in their fathers&#8217; footsteps is a indoctrination from an early age into a perverted brand of Islam that glorifies death &#8212; see pictures above, and many more at Little Green Footballs.</p>
<p>David, I think fighting radical Islam is the ONLY option.  NOT fighting radical Islam <a HREF="http://blog.kirkpetersen.net/2008/09/never-forget.html" REL="nofollow">led directly to 9/11</a>, and isolationism will lead to more 9/11s. There will be defeats and setbacks along the way, but that&#8217;s the nature of any conflict.</p>
<p>The Cold War seemed unwinnable, too&#8230; then all of a sudden we won.  The Iraq War isn&#8217;t over, but it&#8217;s looking more and more like a success story.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the part of Peters&#8217; column where I dissent:</p>
<p>&#8220;While it&#8217;s impossible to fully eliminate extremism, killing every terrorist leader hiding in a Gaza bunker is the only hope of achieving even a temporary, imperfect peace. The chance may not come again.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s realistic to kill &#8220;every&#8221; terrorist leader in Gaza &#8212; not without truly horrific civilian casualties.  But it&#8217;s realistic to kill a lot of them, and to destroy a lot of their munitions and infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the cause of war Gaza is more fundamental than we&#039;d like to meet.  Furthermore I agree that no one--not even President-elect Obama--can negotiate with fundamentalists; it&#039;s by definition impossible.  But here, Peters&#039; loses me: &quot;Until Arabs or Iranians decide to cure themselves, we&#039;ll have to fight.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not so sure fighting radical Islam is an option; we&#039;ve seen how it has resulted in Iraq and we&#039;ve seen how Israel&#039;s fighting has resulted.  Luckily, we have one option Israel doesn&#039;t and that&#039;s isolationism.  That&#039;s a dirty word these days, and it&#039;s a loaded one.  I&#039;m no isolationist, but I do believe that sometimes when there&#039;s no way to resolve a conflict, you need to resist getting involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the cause of war Gaza is more fundamental than we&#8217;d like to meet.  Furthermore I agree that no one&#8211;not even President-elect Obama&#8211;can negotiate with fundamentalists; it&#8217;s by definition impossible.  But here, Peters&#8217; loses me: &#8220;Until Arabs or Iranians decide to cure themselves, we&#8217;ll have to fight.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure fighting radical Islam is an option; we&#8217;ve seen how it has resulted in Iraq and we&#8217;ve seen how Israel&#8217;s fighting has resulted.  Luckily, we have one option Israel doesn&#8217;t and that&#8217;s isolationism.  That&#8217;s a dirty word these days, and it&#8217;s a loaded one.  I&#8217;m no isolationist, but I do believe that sometimes when there&#8217;s no way to resolve a conflict, you need to resist getting involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Schumey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schumey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We also have a Muslim insurgency as well as a communist one. What drives these kids to follow in the footsteps of their fathers? I can only think of one, because they saw death around them. It&#039;s a vicious cycle really. If anyone saw the film &quot;The Kingdom&quot;, they would understand why children grow up with so much hate in their hearts. Having a family member die in front of you would give you a motive for revenge. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These are things we the supposed to be civilized world would never understand because we never experienced the same experiences these kids went through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also have a Muslim insurgency as well as a communist one. What drives these kids to follow in the footsteps of their fathers? I can only think of one, because they saw death around them. It&#8217;s a vicious cycle really. If anyone saw the film &#8220;The Kingdom&#8221;, they would understand why children grow up with so much hate in their hearts. Having a family member die in front of you would give you a motive for revenge. </p>
<p>These are things we the supposed to be civilized world would never understand because we never experienced the same experiences these kids went through.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Maistros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Maistros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with every word of Peters&#039; article.  Every word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with every word of Peters&#8217; article.  Every word.</p>
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